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Post by QueenKelly on Apr 5, 2006 11:13:43 GMT -5
Does anyone here think ABC is trying to jeopardize the show by trying to put it in a different timeslot, hoping it will completely sink and they will have to cancel it over low ratings?
Remember, It has been on a VERY long hiatus, to long, so ABC could be doing this so that they can get rid of this ground breaking TV Show. They do it this way, it won't make the network look bad.
So, what does everybody think?
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Post by QueenKelly on Apr 5, 2006 11:46:02 GMT -5
As of right now, I think yes! I think they are doing it in a way so they won't get any slack if it doesn't make it.
I have seen this happen before. A network wants a certain demographic to be watching during that timeslot and has caused a show to go into cancelation by moving it all over the place to the point where the viewers couldn't watch it because they couldn't find it!
I hope the remaining episodes knock the ratings out of the ball park, or are at the average rating for the successful, but not talked about, TV shows on the air.
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Post by Barb on Apr 5, 2006 13:58:18 GMT -5
Well, the long hiatus doesn't mean anything. My shows on the WB haven't been around for about 2 months now, they just started new episodes this week. It's just so they can spread the episodes out because they can only afford to make so many shows. I remember when tv shows had about 20 episodes to some shows...now it's more like 14. That's why hiatus' are more common now than then. It used to be you took a few weeks off with repeats, now you get more repeats than anything.
As for the time slot change, it could be that they are trying to find viewers, little do they realize a lot of people can't manage to find when it's on so they don't watch the show and give up looking for it.
I don't think they would purposely sabotage their own show, when they've already put millions of dollars into it. And the show gets rave reviews, so yeah, I don't think they're doing it on purpose...I just don't think they realize what they're doing.
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Post by QueenKelly on Apr 5, 2006 14:19:08 GMT -5
That's why in my post I said as of right now. Las I heard, the ABC President was willing to do anything to keep this show on the air.
Just to let you know, a network would sabotage a show if they want the 18 to 25 demoraghic to watch in a certain time slot. It actually has happened. I can't remember what the show was, but this was a while ago and I read it in the paper. There was this TV show, great ratings in it's time slot, but it didn't appeal to the age demograghic I mentioned. So, they moved the show around to the point where it's viewers couldn't find it, which led to low ratings and caused the show to be canceled. I wish I remember what the show was called!
I don't feel this way just because I want a show with M-P to stay on the air. Back when they showed repeats of the first few episodes of the show, I regreted not watching it sooner! It is a great show!
Right now this is how I feel, but I will be MORE then happy to be wrong about this. If you happen to see an ad for it to promote it's comeback, let me know. I haven't seen any.
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Post by Perculiar Chicken on Apr 5, 2006 14:23:47 GMT -5
I have no idea because I'm simply not au fait with the way things like this work in the US but I certainly hope not, that would be a travesty!
TV drama series in the UK are generally about 8 episodes long, so its a totally different scenario altogether - the shows will be budgeted, ordered, filmed and then shown on consecutive weeks - unless there is a special event on (royal wedding, big football match, etc).
I think though, from a financial point of view, if they wanted to get rid of a show they would just do it - hopefully they would have the sense to not waste money taping more episodes and re-promoting the show with the intention of scrapping it! We'll have to see - clearly CiC has not had the best start, with the problems with the Rod Lurie's scheduling and all the timeslot disruptions but I really hope it can overcome this!! Only time will tell....
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Post by QueenKelly on Apr 5, 2006 14:40:28 GMT -5
Im not giving up on the show. It comes back next Thursday, but I haven't seen ANY promotions for it.
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Post by Barb on Apr 5, 2006 15:12:57 GMT -5
Im not giving up on the show. It comes back next Thursday, but I haven't seen ANY promotions for it. I have.  |
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Post by QueenKelly on Apr 5, 2006 15:34:36 GMT -5
Barb, could you lock this ridiculous thread and then have Erika delete it? I am overreacting over this and I just remembered that most of my ABC shows are picked up by CTV. It was SO stupid of me to start this thread.  |
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Post by The Animal on Apr 5, 2006 18:56:06 GMT -5
The network would have no reason to "sabotage" their own show. Networks rely on shows to produce advertising revenue, thus, the more people that watch a show, the more they can charge sponsors for their commercials during their time slots (which is why Super Bowl commercials cost over $2 million for every 30 seconds). If ratings tank, there go the sponsors and the show is pulled. It's ridiculous to think that a network would purposely lose a money-making opportunity with nothing to gain. It's not like they are forced to air any remaining episodes.
I do not know why the show was on hiatus or why the timeslot has changed, but if the show had loyal fans, they would tune in no matter the timeslot. If ABC sees that the show is not worth keeping (higher losses of production vs gains of advertising), watch the show not be renewed. This is not to knock on the acting abilities on anyone on the show, though.
Simple conclusion: If enough people watch the show when it returns, regardless of any "sabotaging action" by ABC, the show will remain. If ratings drop, the show is pulled, no matter how great or badly the actors in it may be.
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Post by Barb on Apr 5, 2006 19:45:10 GMT -5
Ah, I don't think there's a reason to delete it Queen Kelly. |
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Post by QueenKelly on Apr 6, 2006 8:07:35 GMT -5
animal, like I said in my other posts, this has happened before. There was a highly rated show on, but the age demographic for that night and time slot was not what the network wanted. If a network moves a TV show around enough times, even the most dedicated fans will lose track of it. Not that they're giving up, but because they just can't find it. So, for the final time, a network would sabotage a show on their own network. This is not a regular accurance, but it has happened before. Networks are about money and power. I don't believe they care much about fans. We're just simply being used by them.
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Post by QueenKelly on Apr 6, 2006 9:40:03 GMT -5
Here's the deal. Not in a good mood today and I feel like I just ripped into Animal.
I started this thread because this is how I feel right now. I certaintly don't expect everyone or any one to agree with me. So, I'm going to back off for a bit so we can have a nice conversation.
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Post by tatfan on Apr 6, 2006 16:15:52 GMT -5
hey jenn tell me whats bothering you in a pm or something!
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Post by The Animal on Apr 6, 2006 16:42:02 GMT -5
In an age where we have TV Guides, Internet, digital channel guides, and (gasp!) digital video recorders, I would HARDLY believe that a fan would have trouble finding a show if they really looked.
Furthermore, if a network wanted to "sabotage" a show, they would do it the quick and dirty way: they would cancel it right then and there. You're absolutely right about networks being about money. That's the point of business. Why would a network purposely lose money by having an unwanted show on the air, where they could air another program that would generate higher revenue. Canceling a show is not a byproduct of losing the wanted demographic. A show with high ratings could very well be canceled at the whims of the executives running the network. Granted, it would be a stupid business move to make, but its doable. A network can do anything it wants with the shows they produce, that includes canceling a show without prior notice, high ratings or not.
Take it from a business perspective: no company in their right mind would continue an endeavor that loses money, but they can and are able to stop any one that does produce for the risk of producing one that makes more.
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Post by QueenKelly on Apr 6, 2006 19:16:41 GMT -5
Animal, how would you explain a show like "Joey" staying on the air for 2 season? For the 2 seasons it was on the air I CONSTANTLY heard that it was a struggle in it's timeslot, yet NBC kept it going! It has finally been canceled, yes!, but how would you explain a struggling show being kept on the air for 2 SEASONS!
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