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Post by Fran on Apr 5, 2005 20:27:24 GMT -5
here's some parts of a very recent article: want to know what Elizabeth is doing right now?
"The Humane Society of the United States called for a U.S. boycott of all seafood exported from the country to protest seal hunting practices along Canada’s east coast.
Actress Elizabeth Berkley flew overnight from Los Angeles to join the humane rights organization in condemning the seal hunt.
"I’m personally outraged by the murder of these helpless and defenseless animals," said the actress best known for her TV role in "Saved by the Bell" and the movie "Showgirls," as she read from notes on slips of pink notebook paper."
Personal note: this is a person I respect.
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Post by tatfan on Apr 5, 2005 23:10:22 GMT -5
good for her, go elizabeth! i love seelions.  |
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Post by sbtb411 on Apr 6, 2005 0:48:08 GMT -5
Good for her!!!! This reminds me of her character Jesse, who cares about animals.  |
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Post by ScottWolfBackgrnd on Apr 30, 2005 18:51:24 GMT -5
yeah, she's cool.
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Post by QueenKelly on Apr 30, 2005 19:33:14 GMT -5
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Post by Carrie on Apr 30, 2005 21:54:55 GMT -5
I`m proud of Elizabeth but I wonder what makes killing SeaLions so brutal. I mean obviously it`s wrong but why is everyone so offended by it?
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Post by Fran on May 2, 2005 20:32:06 GMT -5
Well, i found ANY kind of disrespect to animals an offense to human intelligence and a disrespect to life. People say I'm totally crazy because I can't even kill a bee, but everybody has the right to live. Who are you to have the power to kill anybody? It's not about religion, it's about life. Someone kills a person in the street: he's a killer, a monster. Someone kills a cat: well, it can happen. There are so many cats in the world. (Well, if you put that way, there are billions of people in the world...).
That's why I have TOTAL respect to Elizabeth Berkley. She never wore a fur and she's vegetarian. And she fights hard for the animal rights.
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Post by QueenKelly on May 3, 2005 9:24:07 GMT -5
Fran
I'm going to tell you that I do eat meat. I believe that as humans, we are at the top of the food chain, however our thinking is completely WRONG. I do agree with a great deal of your reply. As far as my statement about being at the top of the food chain, if you watch the discover channel, you will see shows on how animals go and hunt down there pray, which would be the animal below them on the food chain. However you never see any of them bringing home "suveniers" of what they have just killed.
Killing elephants for there ivories, disgusting.
killing cats, birds and dogs also disgusting.
Carrie
I'll do some research for you about the killing of the seals. There is a specific reason Canadians are so up in arms about that. I'll get back to you on that one.
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Post by ScottWolfBackgrnd on May 3, 2005 9:28:21 GMT -5
I agree with you fran; i hate it when people go out of their way to kill things.
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Post by Fran on May 3, 2005 14:39:15 GMT -5
QueenKelly,
I know what do you mean and I know all the stuff about the food chain. I't s natural even if it seems cruel. But humans take advantage of their superiority and don't kill animals just to eat them. It's all a business thing which is diusgusting. See how they treat animals and how they kill them. But I know you know what I mean!
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Post by QueenKelly on May 3, 2005 16:21:45 GMT -5
Fran I'm glad you know what I mean! As for the rest of your reply, I agree with you completely! I had this high school friend who's step-father loved going hunting. I'm not going to go into detail about what he did with the bodies, but you know it was disgusting!  Just to let you know, I agree with your statement completely, especially when it comes to the business end! |
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Post by kellywannabe on May 8, 2005 18:08:07 GMT -5
In defence of the sealhunting I just wanted to say a few words being a Canadian myself.
For years and years and well centuries it has been a way of life in the north. They do not just kill the seals for the sake of killing them, they kill them for their livelyhood. Who are we to take away one's livelyhood? If those people do stop killing the seals, which is a main source of food seeing as growing veggies up there is near impossible and it's pretty much the largest source of meat in the winter for those people. Shipping meat up there is difficult seeing as some places you can only get there by plane, and if they run out of food then what? If we take away those people's right to hunt, then we take away their source of food and therefore force humans to go starving. So therefore, we are killing our fellow man.
That being said I am a huge animal fan and a former vegitarian. I'll step down off the soapbox...I wrote a paper on this my first year in college studying the culture in northern Canada.
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Post by QueenKelly on May 9, 2005 11:24:02 GMT -5
kellywannabe
I read your reply and I completely agree. I can't argue with anything you said.
I'm wondering if there is some confussion though.
I'm wondering if this is about the seaLions or the baby seals.
The baby seals are being brutally murdered for their pelts. I don't know if the bodies are even being used for food, but I do know they are specifically being murdered in the most brutal way for their pelts to make cloths.
From what I just read on the internet about sealions, is that there is some sort of water type bomb being placed under glaciers to scare them away from other vegetation. Apparently the sealions are just gobbling up are sources of vegetation at an alarming rate which could cause the salmon, tuna, etc. to go exticnt. The one important fact they mentioned is that these water bombs(not sure exactly what there called) is not harming any other vegetation.
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Post by kellywannabe on May 9, 2005 15:38:33 GMT -5
baby seals, contrary to popular belief, are used for other things than pelts, more so in the Arctic regions of Canada, I do not condone anybody killing the seals for sport AT ALL and think that that is a terrible thing.
The baby seal blubber is used in Inuit cooking and also as a source of fuel for them.
But yes brutal murder for sheer sport is wrong in my opinion.
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Post by QueenKelly on May 10, 2005 10:41:51 GMT -5
kellywannabe
that reply I had put down was about something I had seen on the news a few years ago. From my understanding, one of the main reasons why the baby seals were being killed was for their pelts. I don't want to get in trouble here, but if I remember correctly it wasn't people from Arctic Canada killing the seals. It was people from another country coming to kill the seals. They showed news footage, and it was just disgusting. Who ever these people were that were doing it were doing the most inhumane thing I had ever seen. This was at least I think maybe seven or eight years ago, but I can still see the news footage in my mind.
In your statement about eating sealions as part of their livelyhood, I totally agree with you. I'm sure they have used the pelts for clothes and other things, but that was never their reason for killing them. They hunted sealions strictly for survival.
Unfortunetly, the thing I'm talking about doesn't have to do with survival. It is along the same lines as another country I heard about where a group of people were killing elephants for there ivories.
Just to make myself clear on one part here, I'm not blaming any specific Counties, it just happens to be a group of people from these counties.
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