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Post by Nem on Apr 8, 2005 14:58:46 GMT -5
Nice cover.
Erika, amazing letter. Hopefully this might make them scratch their heads and realise that we are NOT idiots and like Barb said, we know our Saved By The Bell. You know what ticks me off even more? We have to wait SOOOOOOOOO long for Season 5 and it has ZERO Extra's(well aside from the Spanish translation(SAP)). We have to wait so long for the DVD and the cover is HORRIBLE and one of the cast members is missing.
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Post by The Animal on Apr 8, 2005 17:30:59 GMT -5
This is like leaving Phoebe out of the cover of Friends or George out of Seinfeld. Complete travesty. Bunch of idiots over at Lions Gate, I tell you.
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Post by SaveMeBelding on Apr 8, 2005 18:09:08 GMT -5
What gets me is why they felt they needed Lisa Creel in the cover without Elizabeth Berkley. I mean, I'd be fine if they'd put both of them on there.
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Post by Cindy on Apr 8, 2005 20:51:56 GMT -5
Ok, I agree with everyone that the coverart is CRAP. But there has to be a reason why they decided to butcher the pictures, instead of just using the numerous others ones out there (like the ones you guys suggested).
It's sad there are no confirmed extras. But actually, I think it's asking too much to include BOTH Hawaiian Style and the Wedding. Interviews with the cast, commentary, maybe some bloopers - that would have been nice.
Above all, I think we should just be happy SBTB is being released on DVD. True, the dvds seem like an insult. But I know there are fans of other shows that are ANXIOUSLY waiting for a dvd release with NONE in sight.
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Post by tatfan on Apr 8, 2005 23:30:06 GMT -5
wait, no extras! did you guys find that on the same website? thats what ive been waiting for. now im really mad too!  |
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Post by SaveMeBelding on Apr 9, 2005 10:04:59 GMT -5
Ok, I agree with everyone that the coverart is CRAP. But there has to be a reason why they decided to butcher the pictures, instead of just using the numerous others ones out there (like the ones you guys suggested). It's sad there are no confirmed extras. But actually, I think it's asking too much to include BOTH Hawaiian Style and the Wedding. Interviews with the cast, commentary, maybe some bloopers - that would have been nice. Above all, I think we should just be happy SBTB is being released on DVD. True, the dvds seem like an insult. But I know there are fans of other shows that are ANXIOUSLY waiting for a dvd release with NONE in sight. Very well said. I really never thought about it that way.  |
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Post by Nick on Apr 9, 2005 22:39:11 GMT -5
I can get easily get over the cover art massacre, but I agree with Nem that the lack of extras is ridiculous. If I recall correctly, when Erika asked her contacts what was taking so long a few months back, they replied with "We're working on extras." Since there are no extras why the hell did it take them so llong? In between the time they released seasons 3+4 and season 5, Four seasons of Seinfeld have been released, it's just ridiculous!
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Post by Goosin_Gosselaar on Apr 9, 2005 23:00:26 GMT -5
SaveMeBelding-that's a nice ass cover. You did 150 % better job then they did. You should be the cover designer for LG (like you really want to work for them)
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Post by The Animal on Apr 10, 2005 12:11:37 GMT -5
Think about it...
When Trimark did the cover for Seasons 1 & 2, Belding wasn't featured on it but the cover came out OK. It included the main cast members and was completely acceptable. Here came Lions Gate and insisted on putting Belding on the cover. Now, I don't have anything against putting the school principal on the cover, but it's the way they put him on there that was completely disgusting. I'll give credit to Lions Gate for putting that picture of the cast members with their SBTB jackets, but they butchered it by putting Belding behind Jessie. That picture with no Belding would have been just fine. Image took over for The New Class and The College Years and look how those covers came out. Perfectly acceptable. Here comes Lions Gate again with Season 5, and they put that same picture of Belding in the background, plus take Tori's face and paste right over Jessie's body. Give credit to Lions Gate, at least, for doing a great job with the editing, but we SBTB fans know the difference. Maybe some random person walking through their favorite electronic store's DVD aisle won't know the difference, but we know better. That cover is completely unacceptable. The only thing I can be thankful for is that whoever wins the DVD artwork contest will get a free copy and won't have to fork over $30 to have this coverart adorn their DVD collection.
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Post by tiosrec on Apr 10, 2005 12:51:26 GMT -5
Not to sound like the devil's advocate, but isn't possible that Lion's gate used what they had to work with. Remember everything you see for the most part (excluding the commentaries tracks) that they use on the sets is licensed from NBC. Sometimes things aren't done with malice, sometimes things are done because that's what you have to do.
It seems that everyone wants to blame Lions Gate for everything, but not everything is their fault. It's one of those things that unless you work in the industry it's hard to explain.
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Post by The Animal on Apr 10, 2005 13:59:24 GMT -5
Not to sound like the devil's advocate, but isn't possible that Lion's gate used what they had to work with. Remember everything you see for the most part (excluding the commentaries tracks) that they use on the sets is licensed from NBC. Sometimes things aren't done with malice, sometimes things are done because that's what you have to do. It seems that everyone wants to blame Lions Gate for everything, but not everything is their fault. It's one of those things that unless you work in the industry it's hard to explain. Tim I'll have to disagree. If Trimark did a good job, and Image did a good job, there's no reason other than laziness or indifference that Lions Gate couldn't do as good a job as the two aforementioned companies. Lions Gate could have done a decent job, if not a great job, but they made stupid mistakes that could have been easily avoided. Placing a picture of Belding in that manner on the cover art for Seasons 3 & 4 was just poor judgment. You would think they have learned from that mistake, but they placed that same picture (as if no one would notice) on the upcoming Season 5 DVD, not to mention the whole Jessie/Tori disaster. I'm not saying what they're doing they're doing out of malice, but given other artwork that we have seen from Trimark and Image, and even the artwork that will be revealed later from the artwork contest, I'm sure Lions Gate had access to other pictures and graphics that they could have used but chose not to. Since this show ended in 1993, I can't blame Lions Gate for the lack of extras on the DVDs. Perhaps if this show was made during the era of DVDs, more of that material would be available. I highly doubt any NBC affiliates 12 years ago ever thought that the entire series would be released in a format not yet invented. Thus, some of the bloopers, commentaries, interviews, or extra reel footage would have probably been discarded since no one thought they were going to use it. We can't blame Lions Gate for extras that may or may not even exist, but we can definitely place the blame on them for putting together a sloppy DVD cover for Seasons 3 & 4, then topping it with an even more atrocious cover for Season 5. |
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Post by tiosrec on Apr 10, 2005 15:14:02 GMT -5
I'll have to disagree. If Trimark did a good job, and Image did a good job, there's no reason other than laziness or indifference that Lions Gate couldn't do as good a job as the two aforementioned companies. Lions Gate could have done a decent job, if not a great job, but they made stupid mistakes that could have been easily avoided. Placing a picture of Belding in that manner on the cover art for Seasons 3 & 4 was just poor judgment. You would think they have learned from that mistake, but they placed that same picture (as if no one would notice) on the upcoming Season 5 DVD, not to mention the whole Jessie/Tori disaster. I'm not saying what they're doing they're doing out of malice, but given other artwork that we have seen from Trimark and Image, and even the artwork that will be revealed later from the artwork contest, I'm sure Lions Gate had access to other pictures and graphics that they could have used but chose not to. Since this show ended in 1993, I can't blame Lions Gate for the lack of extras on the DVDs. Perhaps if this show was made during the era of DVDs, more of that material would be available. I highly doubt any NBC affiliates 12 years ago ever thought that the entire series would be released in a format not yet invented. Thus, some of the bloopers, commentaries, interviews, or extra reel footage would have probably been discarded since no one thought they were going to use it. We can't blame Lions Gate for extras that may or may not even exist, but we can definitely place the blame on them for putting together a sloppy DVD cover for Seasons 3 & 4, then topping it with an even more atrocious cover for Season 5. [quote author=The Animal link=board=SBTBDVD&thread=1112880385&start=55#3 I still think that Lions Gate did what they had to do. Think about it. When Trimark put out their stuff it was a lot closer date from the end of the series. To me that means there were a lot more photos to chose from meaning less work had to be done. As for the Image release I wouldn't call it the best looking design in my collection. Think about the region 2 dvds. They look like one of those dvd sets that you buy off of eBay. My whole point is Lions Gate has a licensing deal with NBC for Saved by The Bell. They (or the company they use for graphic arts) used and edited photos that NBC gave them. At the end of the day we all can second guess and say that they should do it this way or that way but if the photo wasn't included in the licensing deal it's all a moot point. I am sure that if NBC or Peter Engel. Productions had an issue with the designs of any of the set, they would have been changed Honestly, I think a lot of people are more upset that Torrie is on the cover in the first place and the whole pasting thing is just fuel to the fire. I could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time and it sure as heck will not be the last. I do know one thing though (Well I know more than one thing) the cover art whether I like it or not isn't going to affect my love the watching the dvds. Tim |
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Post by tiosrec on Apr 10, 2005 15:26:11 GMT -5
I'm sure it doesn't really matter what she thinks. She signed a contract with NBC, and it somehow probably includes stuff like this. That's not 100 percent accurate. A lot (not all) of contracts written in the past few years include the ability to use your image for future endeavors but, older contracts usually have no such clause and often the people involved have to sign off on the right to have the image reused in another fashion. For example take the movie Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. When they are on the Miramax lot you see movie posters for the Miramax movies Air Bud (just with Air Bud) and Jackie Brown (Which just has the name of the movie on it), but you don't see any other posters that have people in them. The reason for that is because of clearance issues. Tim |
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Post by tiosrec on Apr 10, 2005 15:31:11 GMT -5
This is like leaving Phoebe out of the cover of Friends or George out of Seinfeld. Complete travesty. Bunch of idiots over at Lions Gate, I tell you. If Phoebe and George quit, I wouldn't see the harm in it. Much in the same way that I don't expect to see Bo and Luke Duke on the cover of the season 5 set of "Dukes of Hazard" If you want to see true purposeful and malicious treatment you need to see the Brady Bunch memorabilia that has been coming out the past few years. With the exception of the dvds Robert Reed has been deleted from all promo material. Tim |
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Post by Matt on Apr 10, 2005 15:39:42 GMT -5
I don't see why they couldn't have contacted Erika and asked for a complete cast picture. She could send them one and they use that for the cover. Sheesh. What's worse is that Lion's Gate comes off like they don't give a rats___ because they don't communicate or give reasons, or listen to fans. If I didn't want the rest of the episodes on dvd so bad, I wouldn't buy this set, but I have to have the episodes. I will be embarrased to have such a butchered photo though.
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